Double Loop B-50 Dacron Endless Bow String
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My Recurve needs a specific non-standard length bow string, so I had to get a 70" string for my 68" bow (68" moves brace height 2,5-3" (2" after heavy use) out of recommended values, while 70" string is just in the middle)
Problem is, when the string got longer over time, it started to hit my hand at full draw.
I was wondering, if its safe to tie a knot on the string, and if so, does it have any side effects ? Like change in bow performance etc.
I tried it on old bow string, seemed fine and its length decreased 0,5" per knot, but I´m worried about long term performance...
Thank you for any advice regarding this problem.
Asked on 5/31/2013 by Random Newbie
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No all you have to do is twist up your string, putting a knot in it will cause your string to break.
Answered on 6/3/2013 by Dave from 3Rivers Archery
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I never heard of tying a not in the string. I think it would effect the performance of the bow. I wouldn't do it.
Answered on 6/1/2013 by Anonymous
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Maybe it's time for you to buy specific items for a bowstring making (like items 3208 or 5325-2 and 4144X). It's hard and time taking prosess, but worth the effort.
Yours truly: Esa Dahl
Answered on 6/1/2013 by Anonymous
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Tie a knot to a fishing line-it gets weaker, tie a knot to a bow string the same. Instead of a knot just twist the string like you would twist a rubber band. You can easily shorten your string an inch or even two. Of course excessive twist will weaken your string a little and a longer string is heavier and slower. It's best to get a string thats close to the right length and twist to get the right brace height. Your brace height is to low when you are hitting your wrist.. Always try to stay in the mfg recommended brace height range.
Shoot straight, Harry
Answered on 6/1/2013 by Anonymous
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Twist, don't tie a knot! This could be dangerous. Every ten revolutions of twist will increase the brace height by as much as an inch, depending on the length, and thickness of the string. Try giving it a few good turns, if that's not enough, a shorter string is definitely in order. My bear recurve, and my Ben Pearson recurve never slap me, being their brace height is between 7 and 8 inches. Twist, don't tie!
Happy hunting
Answered on 5/31/2013 by Anonymous
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JUST WHAT DOES "AMO" STAND FOR?
Asked on 5/11/2013 by Old Goat from Round Rock TX
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Archery Manufacturers Organization
Answered on 5/13/2013 by Art from 3Rivers Archery
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AMO- Archery Manufacturers Organization.
Never used anything but the B-50 endless. It's always worked for me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Answered on
5/12/2013 by
The perforator from
Gastonia, N.C. Q:
Just picked up a 58" vintage bear grizzly and I am looking to purchase a string for it. I know that recurve bows typically take a four inch shorter string, but I was wondering if the same applies for strings that can stretch up to inch, like this particular one. if not, would i have to get a 53"er so it would stretch to a 54"?
Asked on 5/6/2013 by Jesse from Pomona,CA
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Use 54", because your bow is vintage.
Yours truly: Esa Dahl
Answered on 5/8/2013 by Anonymous
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54" actual string length should be right. And b52 is what you want for a vintage bow. Just beware some strings are marked or labelled by AMO length which is 58" in your case and some are marked labelled by actual string length..
So you want 58" AMO or 54" actual length.
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Answered on 5/8/2013 by Anonymous
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I also have an old recurve; my situation is exactly the same using a 53" string for a 58" length. My understanding is that it comes down to the brace height once the string has stretched a bit, but 5" under works well for my bow.
Answered on 5/8/2013 by Anonymous
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I would buy the string length the bow calls for and then twist to shorten
it as it stretches. You do not want to start with a string that is too
short, to account for future stretch, on an old bow because you can over
stress and break the limbs. Good Luck
Richard E. Enders
Traditional Shooter
Answered on 5/7/2013 by Anonymous
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No, you want a 54'' and if it stretches then twist it up.
Answered on 5/7/2013 by Dave from 3Rivers Archery
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Hey Jesse,
Stay with the 54" string. If your brace hieght is to low just twist the string a few times to shorten. If you get the 53 and it's to short, well you'll end up buying the 54 anyway.
Shoot straight,
Harry
Answered on 5/7/2013 by Anonymous
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54" is best, so you can twist the string to adjust the bow's brace height for fine tuning.
Answered on 5/7/2013 by Anonymous
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Hello,
I just bought two old hickory longbows.
The shorter bow string nocks distance is 60 1/4".
The larger bow string nocks distance is 66".
Will this type of string be OK for these older bows?
If so. What lengths should I purchase?
Thank you in advance,
Laurence
Asked on 4/26/2013 by Laurence the beginner from Charlton, MA
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If your bow is marked with AMO length, then minus 3 inches for a long bow string or minus 4 inches if it is a recurve. If your bow is not marked with the length, measure from where the string loops around the tip to the opposite end. Also, if the draw weight is 50 lbs or less, use a 14 strand string. If the bow is 51 lbs or heavier, use a 16 strand string.
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4/29/2013 by
ghosthunter81 from
marshall, mi.
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Hey Laurence, Usually a 3" shorter string works for me. So a 57" and a 63". Use a Flemish twist string and you can give it a twist to shorten or untwist a little to lengthen. Remember the twist holds it together so don't unwind much.You didn't mention weight of draw. Usually a bow under 50# would use a 14 strand b-50 string and above a 16. Some strings are 15 and will work with most bows.
Warning- do not use fast flight unless you know your bow was designed for fast flight. One more thing, brace height on longbows,I use about 6". Less is faster,higher can be quieter. Should be high enough to clear your fletching. Good luck and shoot straight, Harry
Answered on 4/29/2013 by Anonymous
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Laurence B-50 is what you want for older bows the endless loop pictured will work or a Flemish twist string in B -50 the Flemish twist lets you fine tune the lengthy a bit more by twisting or untwisting the string this can be used to adjust the brave height. In general you want a string 3" shorter than the length for a longbow that would be 63" for the longer now and 57" for the shorter one.
Hope this helps and be sure to use a bowstringer to string them.
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Answered on 4/29/2013 by Anonymous
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My rule of thumb has been 3 inches shorter for longbow, and 4 inches shorter for recurves
Answered on 4/29/2013 by Anonymous
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Hi,
I am not an expert, I just happen to be a guy who has bought these for his recurve and longbow in the past. For old hickory longbows, I would personally stick to the flemish twist string. It is a little slower, but easier on the old bows.
The endless loop dacron has some give to it, and will likely be just fine, but for my grandpa's hickory longbow, I just wouldn't risk it.
Hope this helps.
Answered on 4/27/2013 by Anonymous
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For shorter: 57"
For larger: 63"
This apply only if your measurments are correct.
Yours truly: Esa Dahl
Answered on 4/27/2013 by Anonymous
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Hi ! Can i use a 14 strands double loop string on my vintage recurve bow 60"@#50 ? The old flemish is twisted about 20 turns and measure 56.5", it's time to change it i guess ...
Asked on 2/7/2013 by Jean-Claude from Trois-Rivières, Quebec,Canada
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Yes, you can use a 14 strand string on a 50# bow. For that bow you will want to get a 56" string. The string will stretch, but it can be twisted to get it back to the original length or wherever you need it to get the correct brace height.
Answered on 2/9/2013 by Justin from 3Rivers Archery
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Use 16 strand-version. It's much safer.
Yours truly: Esa
Answered on 2/8/2013 by Anonymous
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Yep -- B50 strings are safe to use on all bows.
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Answered on 2/7/2013 by Anonymous
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Oh, were you looking for a length to try? I've played with brace height
quite a bit, but assuming you want to keep it the same I'd try a 54" string
and plan for it to stretch. I'm no expert at this and have ordered a
couple to try and see what I like. My preference is to get the lowest
brace height I can before I get wrist slap. I think it makes for smoother
bow.
Answered on
2/7/2013 by
Sam from
Maine
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I think the B-50 would be fine. I forget if the 14 to 16 strand dividing
line is at 50#? The catalog says if you read carefully. I use a 16 strand
dacron string on my 55# recurve and a 14 strand on my vintage 45#.
Answered on
2/7/2013 by
Sam from
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I use a 50# Mongolian bow and was wondering if i could order this string with a larger loop to fit my bow?
Asked on 1/1/2013 by Trav
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I do not have any of these strings available with a longer string loop. I have a few replacement strings available for the Asiatic composite bows that we carry. I would double check and see if any of those would be the right length for your bow.
Answered on 1/2/2013 by Justin from 3Rivers Archery
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Is this string recommended for my wood longbow?
Asked on 11/27/2012 by Dave from ElPaso, TX
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The D50 is a pretty standard vanilla bowstring. It will work for your wood longbow.
Answered on 11/28/2012 by Anonymous
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It worked awesome on mine and has survived about 500 shots so far no problem
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Answered on 11/28/2012 by Anonymous
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Hey Dave, B-50 Dacron? Yes. I would recommend a B-50 Dacron Flemish twist string made for a longbow. I use them on all my self bows. Length is easily adjusted by just twisting the string. Be careful not to untwist much though as the twist is what holds it together. Also this type of string has smaller loops which fit longbows better. Good luck. Harry
Answered on 11/28/2012 by Anonymous
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yes..... double loop dacron strings are stock.... use 14 strand up to 50# or 16 strand above 50# draw weights.... order proper string length per 3R's instructions
Answered on 11/28/2012 by Anonymous
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I use those for my traditional recurve. It's a more forgiving string than
the modern stuff (fast flight), I don't shoot a long bow, but think it
would be the right thing. Flemish strings would be considered more
traditional, but my guess is that most of them are made of B-50 dacron as
well. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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11/28/2012 by
Sam from
Maine
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Yep - You can use B-50 Dacron on any bow.
Answered on 11/28/2012 by Anonymous
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I don't shoot a wood longbow so I can't help. I'm sure Dale and the others at 3Rivers can tell you in a heartbeat. I'm a recurve guy.
Slim Randles
Albuquerque
Answered on
11/28/2012 by
Old Slim from
Albuquerque NM
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Yes, This string would work for an all wood bow. For an all wood bow you will wan to stay away with the Fast flight materials.
Answered on 11/28/2012 by Art from 3Rivers Archery
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Hi, I have a 1971 Super Kodiak #45 @28, 60" AMO and bought a 56" 14 strand double loop Dacron string. The brace height with the untwisted string is 9", recommendations are about 8-8 1/2 ". Will this stretch 1/2" - 1"? Or should I get a string 1-2" longer so I can twist, optimize brace height and add silencers?
Also, can I use Flemish on this bow?
thx
Carl
Asked on 11/1/2012 by cjw from Ontario, Canada
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Not familiar with the 1971 Super Kodiak, but I do know that the shorter the brace height the greater the fps of the arrow for self bows. Unsure if it will stretch like you are asking.
Answered on 11/1/2012 by Anonymous
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Hi Carl:
Never heard of one stretching (at least not enough) so I'd get one an inch longer than you need and then twist and shoot until you have it just where you want it, and then put a nock set on it.
Slim Randles
Albuquerque
Answered on
11/1/2012 by
Old Slim from
Albuquerque NM
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I find that my 16 strand Dacron strings stretch at least that much, also I
like a brace height lower than the recommendations for my 55# DH Hunter.
Basically I use the longest string I can get before my wrist gets slapped.
I don't have any experience with Flemish strings
Sam
Answered on
11/1/2012 by
Sam from
Maine
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The string will have some stretch to it. I recommend that you string the bow up over night and then check the brace height. It should be much closer.
Yes, you can use a flemish string. Flemish is a style of string and not a material. You just need to make sure that the material is either B50 or Dacron.
Answered on 11/1/2012 by Justin from 3Rivers Archery
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I believe the "amo" is actually referring to the recommended string length. Measure the bow with a tape to be sure, but 4" shorter than actual nock to nock length is best for recurves. I have a 70's model bear tigercat and its amo is 56 so a 52" string is perfect, allows for fine tuning, et cetera. Not sure about flemish but I'm pretty sure it wont hurt to try it! I.stick w dacro b50 no problems. Happy shooting
Answered on 11/1/2012 by Anonymous
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We have a 60# IA Savage recurve bow. The limbs are wide such that when unstringing the end loop binds on the limb. The limb is 1.5 inches wide 4-inches down from the tip of the bow, and 1 5/8 inches wide at the tangent. We need a new string as the one we have was cut after unstringing it a number of times. The bow is 58" long, so needing a 54" string, I understand. Do you have a string with a larger loop, or some other suggestion. Thanks
Asked on 10/4/2012 by the forerunner from Port Edwards, WI
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Dear Mr. IA Savage owner, If you cannot find a factory-made string, you may have to look for a custom-made string to AMO (Archery Manufacturers Org) specifications. Better yet, learn to make your own strings. It is time consuming, but it may be your only alternative. 3Rivers Archery offiers lots of stringmaking materials, too, and in the long run you may save money "rolling your own." William C. ****@***.***
Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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For your situation I would recommend a B-50 Flemish Twist string for a recurve item number 1515X. This will be the largest loop that we will have in our strings and you should not have any issues with it on your bow.
Answered on 10/5/2012 by Art from 3Rivers Archery
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I just purchased the double loop b-50 string. The brace seems about right but is there any reason I need to put some twists in the string?
Asked on 7/27/2012 by Jad
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Putting twists in the string is normally based on the need to increase your brace height if it is too low. The brace height is normally between 4" to 7" (less height for greater fps or more height for greater accuracy). (Based on The Traditional Bower's Bible, Vol. 1).
Answered on 7/27/2012 by Anonymous
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Twist to make it shorter if needed to get the proper brace height.
Answered on 7/27/2012 by Anonymous
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Even if your brace height is perfect, putting a few twists (5-10) will help
the separate strands of the string operate more as one instead of two
separate bundles of strings. Depending on the draw weight of your bow this
should not move the brace height enough to move it outside the recommended
range. Additionally, putting some twists in your bowstring will decrease
the noise.
Answered on 7/27/2012 by Anonymous
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Twist to shorten if needed and to find tune to the sweet spot. It's there!!
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Answered on 7/27/2012 by Anonymous
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You won't unless you need greater string height from the bow. I use the old fistmele method, which is about six and a half inches between the bow and the string. Play with it a bit and find what works best for you.
Slim Randles
Answered on
7/29/2012 by
Old Slim from
Albuquerque NM
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Hi,
Not a lot different. For a new string, it will stretch a tiny bit therefore the brace height will change a tiny bit as well. Also, a few twists will not change the brace height but it will help the all the tiny strings unite into "one string", this will help the bow string to release quicker. Hope this will help.
Happy shooting
Answered on 7/29/2012 by Anonymous
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The only reason to add or remove twists would be to change the brace height. If the brace is good then I recommend just leaving the string as is.
Answered on 7/31/2012 by Justin from 3Rivers Archery
